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    Poor man's Panamera, or just the smart choice? | July 01, 2010

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2011 Porsche Panamera V6 First Drive

Meet the Poor Man's Panamera

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    We're in the countryside outside Cologne, Germany, where the roads meander past identi-kit villages built on the cheap in the postwar world of the 1950s and 1960s. The area is thoroughly German and thus an ideal setting for the 2011 Porsche Panamera V6.

    A village gives way to an open stretch of road. Pull the left shift paddle twice and the PDK dual-clutch automated manual transmission slips down a couple of gears. The V6 gathers voice, spins past 4,000 rpm and starts to deliver meaningful thrust.

    This car isn't quick in the cor, blimey! sense that the Panamera Turbo gives you, but neither is it so slow as to sully the Porsche badge. This car might be the poor man's Panamera, but all things are relative. It still offers 300 horsepower and costs the not inconsiderable sum of $75,375.

    Not the Cayenne V6
    Let's try to unravel what is at first glance a confusing situation. Porsche now offers two V6 engines, both of which have a displacement of 3.6 liters and produce 300 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque. The first came our way in the Porsche Cayenne and continues in the newly introduced second-generation model. This new V6 in the Panamera is actually a derivative of the Porsche V8 introduced by the 2010 Porsche Panamera.

    At first glance, this overlap in V6s seems like some product planner's balls up, but Porsche says there is a solid rationale at work. The Cayenne's V6 engine came from VW, part of the Porsche and VW agreement to share the development costs of the sport-utility that became the Porsche Cayenne and Volkswagen Touareg. It's a narrow-angle engine with undersquare cylinders, so it proved too tall and skinny to fit under the low, sleek hood of the 2011 Porsche Panamera.

    Porsche therefore took the bold decision to develop a new V6 based on its own V8. As a result, the new V6 shares the 90-degree angle between its cylinder banks of the V8. This isn't so good for vibration control when it comes to a V6, but the new engine can be built on the same production line in Leipzig, Germany, as the V8. Porsche says the V6 shares 40 percent of the V8's parts, and it offers direct injection, variable valve timing for the intake camshaft, plus Porsche's variable valve lift system.

    The Fuel Economy Special
    At first glance, the output of this new 3,605cc V6 might seem modest, as it develops 300 hp at 6,200 rpm and 295 pound-feet of torque at 3,750 rpm, which seems barely enough for a car that weighs 3,880 pounds in two-wheel-drive trim. The Panamera S V8 offers 400 hp for $15,400 more, while the Panamera Turbo V8 delivers 500 hp for $58,200 more.

    The Panamera's sprinting ability is undeniably compromised by its V6, of course. While the Turbo gets to 100 km/h (62 mph) from a standstill in 4.0 seconds and the S reaches the same mark in 5.2 seconds, the V6 will get you there in 6.0 seconds (5.8 seconds if you opt for the high-performance Sport Chrono package that includes launch control).

    How you respond to this rather depends on what you expect from a 2011 Porsche Panamera. Anyone seeking a practical four-door 911 will find the V6's performance disappointing, yet if you regard this car as something of a sporting GT, then the V6 is adequate, especially when you start looking at fuel economy. In normal conditions, you tend to work the V6 engine harder than you would the V8, but you rarely find yourself lamenting the lack of power.

    Porsche has blended the demands of sporting GT and luxury sedan to magnificent effect.

    Working the engine hard is no chore, either. The throaty hum of the V8 has been replaced by a more strident, high-pitched engine note. Don't expect 911-style aural entertainment, but the sound is never less than refined. The contrast with the Cayenne V6 couldn't be greater, as this V6 is full, fat Porsche in every way.

    Shift, Don't Lift
    The V6 also proves an ideal foil for the seven-speed dual-clutch automated manual gearbox. Wimpy push buttons on the steering wheel were initially the control interface for the PDK (the initials for the German word that defines "Porsche double-clutch"), but near universal criticism has prompted a rethink. Officially the sport steering wheel with shift paddles is still an option, but the fact that it was fitted to all of the test cars available to us is a tacit admission of defeat.

    Needless to say, the aluminum shift paddles on the 2011 Porsche Panamera's steering wheel are a huge improvement over buttons if you think of the PDK as a high-tech manual transmission instead of just a fuel-efficient automatic. There is a manual transmission available for the V6, but we won't be getting it in the U.S. and our brief experience with its notchy, long-throw action suggests we're not missing much.

    The PDK system also has been tuned to complement an automated stop/start system for the V6 that silences the engine at stoplights. This fuel-saving measure is now being widely applied to small cars by a growing number of European manufacturers, but it's rare in an engine of this displacement and output. When you come to a halt, the engine stops; take your foot off the brake and the engine restarts. It's simple and affordable, and it helps the U.S.-specification Porsche Panamera V6 achieve an EPA-rated 18 city and 27 highway mpg. In comparison, the Panamera S with its normally aspirated V8 gets just 16 city and 24 highway mpg.

    Efficient Driving
    The Porsche V6 weighs 66 pounds less than the normally aspirated V8 and has been moved 0.6 inch closer to the rear bulkhead of the engine compartment. Open the hood and there's now sufficient space between the engine and the nose to house a sizable briefcase, and the bottom line is the car's balanced weight distribution of 52 percent front/48 percent rear.

    Porsche's engineers reckon they've introduced subtle tuning revisions to the 2011 Porsche Panamera V6's suspension that produce greater ride comfort, and they like the results so much that they've also incorporated them into the Panamera's V8-powered models. While a conventional suspension of springs and dampers is standard equipment, our test car has the optional air suspension with active, driver-adjustable dampers.

    Though we've been driving the Panamera for a year now, its width still comes as a surprise. At 76 inches across, it's 2.3 inches wider than a Mercedes S-Class. This feels more of an issue on the twisty roads west of Cologne near the Belgian border than it would in the U.S., yet it still undermines the car's agility. It's also hard to understand quite why it needs to be this wide.

    This aside, though, the Panamera remains a hugely accomplished car. With the dampers set to Comfort, the ride quality is excellent and it diminishes little even if you switch to Sport. For such a big car, the Panamera changes direction remarkably well and the cornering grip is prodigious. It would be nice to have a little more feel through the helm, while the optional carbon-ceramic brakes as usual lack the pedal feel of the steel alternatives, but these are modest criticisms. First time out, Porsche has blended the demands of sporting GT and luxury sedan to magnificent effect. It's hard to think of a better long -distance tool.

    We drove both the two- and four-wheel-drive versions of the new car, the Panamera and the Panamera 4, and the lower output of the V6 means traction is unlikely ever to be a problem in either car.

    Design Language
    Even the most devoted Panamera spotter will struggle to discern the V6 from its grander siblings. The side window surrounds are now matte black instead of chrome and the exhaust pipes are oval instead of round, but that's about it.

    The rest of the exterior remains as challenging to the eye as ever. Time and familiarity have not been kind to the Panamera's fat rump in particular, not that this stopped the locals from offering exclamations of patriotic pride as we cruised by. Nevertheless, the Panamera still makes us think that Porsche surely needs to develop an alternative design language that doesn't rely on the distinctive silhouette of the 911.

    The Panamera's interior, by contrast, remains a triumph. Ample space for four adults, a distinctive style and immaculate build quality make for a hugely convincing proposition. Just go easy on the options list or you'll end up paying more for a V6 than you would for a Turbo.

    The Smart Porsche
    Globally, the 2011 Porsche Panamera V6 is likely to account for up to 50 percent of overall Panamera sales, at least until the even more fuel-efficient diesel version arrives.

    In the U.S., however, the situation is less clear cut. Air emissions and the question of conspicuous consumption is less of a concern here, so the market for luxurious yet sporting cars like this has always been associated with the acronym "V8." Whether buyers will be willing to pay such a hefty sum for a V6 with a comparatively modest engine output remains to be seen, but those who put away their ego will be rewarded with an accomplished car.

    Sure, the 2011 Porsche Panamera V6 does make you miss the easy thrust of the V8 and turbo engines, but not as much as you might imagine. This new V6 is a modest engine with immodest ability.

    Edmunds attended a manufacturer-sponsored event, to which selected members of the press were invited, to facilitate this report.

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    fantasticfive says:

    07:20 AM, 01/27/2011

    I drove a fully loaded Panamera Turbo a few months ago, and it was impressive, but not for obvious reasons.  It was very well-built and comfortable.  It was fast, but it was so isolated that you didn't feel it as much.  The exhaust note was virtually non-existent.  The suspension was excellent, steering was good overall.  The drawbacks:  It was huge, and felt it.  It was fast, but didn't feel it.  It is strange looking even if it's rare and not a common car.  Worse, it was STUPID expensive.  Loaded up it was $165,000.  C'mon, that is just silly money for this car.

    By comparison, I own a Jaguar XFR, that stickered for $80,000.  Performance wise, that car felt faster (I know, according to all the tests, etc. the Panamera with the launch control is about a half second faster, but in the real world - The XFR feels faster).  The XFR is much better looking from the outside, just as rare, and the interior look is about a tie and comes down to preference.  Fit and finish on the Jag is about 8.5/10 of the Panamera's, but nothing to be concerned about.  It just means that the Porsche is that nicely put together.  The XFR feels much lighter, and spirited because it's not so wide and heavy.  Although the XFR is just as quiet, it doesn't feel as isolated.  The steering on the XFR is better by a little bit.  Suspension wise, both cars are comfortable, but again the XFR may have a slight edge in ride comfort.

    Seriously, drive an XFR, and you get prestige, exclusivity, stupid performance, and a price that may even embarass a  few who opt for a pedestrian BMW 550i.

    (and for all of you out there who are going to talk about Jaguar's reliability . . .don't.  The car is just as good as any Mercedes, Audi, or BMW that I've owned in the fast.)

    Panamera is an interesting and good car, no doubt.  But there are cars that may even be better, and no where as expensive.

    mbbrooks says:

    08:43 PM, 08/08/2010

    I recently looked at several cars including a Panamerica and ended up with an 2010 E550 with a sport package.  I also have a 993 and am a Porsche guy and i was unexpectedly disappointed with the Panamerica.  My first issue was that I could never get the Panamerica to leave a start without something of a lurch.  I tried Sport mode and regular mode and no matter what it feels like a bad clutch drop on leaving the line even with modest revs. The E feels more spacious in the front of the cabin but the rear seating in the Panamerica is nicer but cannot seat 3.   The E has a much better electronics package without having to piecemeal multiple options.There are way too many buttons on the  shifter hump in the Panamerica and nothing is intuitive.   The Benz sound system it better.  The paddle shifters on the Benz work far better.  The abbreviated speedo  on the Porsche is very difficult to read.   Need I mention that I've saved lots of money?   Yes not as exclusive but as a daily driver I really think the 550 works better.  

    ne2rkid says:

    10:49 AM, 07/13/2010

    When you see this car on the street, you look at it and turn you head to look at it little longer.
    And then try to find its flaws so that makes you feel more comfortable,
    because the most of us not gonna spend that much money on a single car and rather
    buy G37 or 550 and play with it while saving money.

    But the thing is, we don't look or think about G37 when you see it on the street.
    because it is just another G37.

    There are certain group of people only care about prestige and
    love to spend their Xtra money on it.  Saving money or efficient spending, won't appy to them.

    alanh1 says:

    02:45 PM, 07/11/2010

    Maybe, we should all give a break to Porsche Panamera, Porsche is learning to get into 4 door sedan market,  this is first 4 door sedan in 78 years.
    Yes, it's too heavy, it's too pricey, but whoever wants and needs 4 door Porsche in the garage:

    DAN DAN: Porsche  Panamera- 0 Compromise, beside the money.

    Well, Porsche Panamera-
    300HP $75,375
    400HP $89,800
    500HP $132,000
    It's your money, you spend the way you want.

    capoany says:

    08:11 AM, 07/10/2010

    I've now seen a half dozen Panameras on the road, and I just can't get beyond the styling. I know it's to each their own, but I find it staggeringly ugly. This car does not come close to what should be expected from the marque. It's hard to imagine this thing getting the thumbs up by the Porsche board of directors.

    nonohonda says:

    10:41 AM, 07/06/2010

    I think this was a mistep by Porsche.  A company so committed to lightweight performance.
    This car is neither lighweight or particularly performance oriented.

    And it's far to expense at that price. There will be many potential buyers that don't read the inside line/motor trend etc and say "I'm not paying that for a panamera with the base Cayenne engine". Everyone who reads this article will know differently but even then does it matter?  It's still only 300 horsepower in a haevy car.

    The driving dynamics of the car are brilliant.  The panamera S and the Turbo easily Out "everything" from the competition.  This just seems like a lack of effort with a big price tag.

    I do agree with one of the previous posters that this car will depreciate dramatically in a few years and make one hello of a CPO'd car.

    alanh1 says:

    03:53 PM, 07/05/2010

    I personal think if Porsche Panamera sell for $59500, Porsche will make more money than selling for $74400.
    Let's say it cost $25000 to make Panamera

    E.g.
    $74400-$25000= $49,400 let's say they sell 10,000 cars, Profit: $490,000,000

    $59500-$25000= $34,500
    There are more people willing to pay $14900 for style, e.g: myself
    so, Porsche has extra customers, let's 4 out 10, before it was 1 out of 10, these 10 people are BMW, Infiiti, MB- higher end cars buyer.
    $59500-$25000= $34,500
    So, Porsche will be selling at 40,000 cars, Profit: $1,380,000,000

    This number is personal opinion, I don't have evidence or support for those data.

    alanh1 says:

    03:37 PM, 07/05/2010

    Porsche = Style = Personality = $$$$$

    If you have extra money, and you don't care to spend it on a Porsche, then go ahead, but the money you sepnd on that Porsche has 33% - 38% more money than a BMW, & Infiniti
    Porsche - Panamera- Basic $74000- 300HP
    BMW- 535i- Basic- $49600- 300HP
    infiniti- M- Basic- $46250- 330HP
    So, my question is: Why do I go to Saks Fifth Ave store to buy Gap quality shirt?
    Oh, I got it, the brand, because it's Porsche.
    I had 911- carrera before, paid premium money for it, but I am not going back to Porsche, I don't want to buy Gap shirt from Saks Fifth Ave, because it has Porsche logo.
    I got better idea:
    Get BMW 550i- $59700, add a lot of options to make it up to $74000, you have more options, and more power, wow... 400 HP.
    Oh, how about M5- $85700 , 500 HP...
    m.... this is very good question for meself.
    Oh, there you go:
    BMW is not Porsche, ok. Infiniti is not Porsche, ok.
    it's the Gap shirt has Saks tag on it.

    alanh1 says:

    03:36 PM, 07/05/2010

    Porsche = Style = Personality = $$$$$

    If you have extra money, and you don't care to spend it on a Porsche, then go ahead, but the money you sepnd on that Porsche has 33% - 38% more money  than a BMW, & Infiniti
    Porsche - Panamera- Basic $74000- 300HP
    BMW- 535i- Basic-               $49600- 300HP
    infiniti- M- Basic-                  $46250- 330HP
    So, my question is: Why do I go to Saks Fifth Ave store to buy Gap quality shirt?
    Oh, I got it, the brand, because it's Porsche.
    I had 911- carrera before, paid premium money for it, but I am not going back to Porsche, I don't want to buy Gap shirt from Saks Fifth Ave, because it has Porsche logo.
    I got better idea:
    Get BMW 550i- $59700, add a lot of options to make it up to $74000, you have more options, and more power, wow... 400 HP.
    Oh, how about M5- $85700 , 500 HP...
    m....   this is very good question for meself.
    Oh, there you go:
    BMW is not Porsche, ok. Infiniti is not Porsche, ok.
    it's the Gap shirt has Saks tag on it.

    rex21 says:

    12:29 PM, 07/05/2010

    I just dusted it on the PCH this morning with my G37 coupe.  I even slowed down purposely to let it catch up with me and then sped away. After about 5 miles, that driver gave up.   It was too much fun beating a $80,000 car with my $30K + car.  You are right, the Porsche has more prestige but that's all in your head. I am sure that Pana V6 driver is thinking about turing his car in....haha...

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    Vehicle Tested:

    2011 Porsche Panamera V6

    Base Price:

    $75,375

    Engine:

    DOHC 3.6-liter V6

    Gearbox:

    Seven-speed automated manual

    Power:

    300 hp @ 6,200 rpm; 295 lb-ft @ 3,750 rpm

    EPA Rating:

    18 mpg city/27 mpg highway

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    Specs & Performance

    Vehicle
    Year Make Model2011 Porsche Panamera 4dr Sedan (3.6L 6cyl 7AM)
    Vehicle TypeRWD 4dr 4-passenger Sedan
    Estimated MSRP$75,375
    Assembly locationStuttgart, Germany
    Drivetrain
    ConfigurationLongitudinal, front-engine, rear-wheel drive
    Engine typeNaturally aspirated, direct-injected gasoline V6 with auto-stop/start
    Displacement (cc/cu-in)3,605cc (220 cu-in)
    Block/head materialAluminum/aluminum
    ValvetrainDOHC, four valves per cylinder, variable intake-valve timing and lift
    Compression ratio (x:1)12.5
    Horsepower (hp @ rpm)300 @ 6,200
    Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)295 @ 3,750
    Fuel typePremium unleaded (required)
    Transmission typeSeven-speed auto, double-clutch manual with console shifter and steering-mounted paddles with sport/competition modes
    Transmission ratios (x:1)I=5.97; II=3.31; III=2.01; IV=1.37; V=1.00; VI=0.81; VII=0.59; Reverse=4.57
    Final-drive ratio (x:1)3.90
    Chassis
    Suspension, frontIndependent double-wishbones, pneumatic springs, driver-adjustable variable dampers, stabilizer bar
    Suspension, rearIndependent multilink, pneumatic springs, driver-adjustable variable dampers, stabilizer bar
    Steering typeHydraulic-assist, speed-proportional rack-and-pinion power steering
    Turning circle (ft.)39.3
    Tire typeSummer
    Tire size, front245/50R18
    Tire size, rear275/RZR18
    Wheel size, front18-by-8 inches
    Wheel size, rear18-by-9 inches
    Wheel materialCast aluminum
    Brakes, front14.2-inch ventilated carbon-ceramic discs with 6-piston fixed calipers
    Brakes, rear13.0-inch ventilated carbon-ceramic discs with 4-piston fixed calipers
    Track Test Results
    0-60 mph, mfr. claim (sec.)6.0
    Fuel Consumption
    Fuel economy, mfr. est. (mpg)18 city/27 highway
    Fuel tank capacity (U.S. gal.)26.4
    Dimensions & Capacities
    Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.)3,880
    Length (in.)195.7
    Width (in.)76.0
    Height (in.)55.8
    Wheelbase (in.)115.0
    Track, front (in.)65.3
    Track, rear (in.)65.4
    Legroom, front (in.)41.9
    Legroom, rear (in.)33.3
    Headroom, front (in.)38.0
    Headroom, rear (in.)38.0
    Shoulder room, front (in.)51.9
    Shoulder room, rear (in.)51.7
    Seating capacity4
    Trunk volume (cu-ft)15.7
    Max cargo volume behind 1st row (cu-ft)44.6
    GVWR (lbs.)5,214
    Payload, mfr. max claim (lbs.)1,334
    Warranty
    Bumper-to-bumper4 years/50,000 miles
    Powertrain4 years/50,000 miles
    Corrosion10 years/Unlimited miles
    Roadside assistance4 years/50,000 miles
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