It was a big deal when the Z-car came back from the dead in 2002.
The Z-car has been one of the great constants of the American road since 1970, when it single-handedly grabbed us all by the lapels and made us take Japanese cars seriously. When the recession of the early 1990s took its toll on sports car sales, Nissan couldn't make a business case for the Z-car anymore and ended the Z-car's presence in the U.S. in 1996 with a giant, full-throttle, multimedia sendoff on an outdoor stage at the Petersen Automotive Museum. It seemed like the end of a dream. Somewhere, Yutaka Katayama was weeping.
So we all celebrated when the 2002 Nissan 350Z appeared. Just as with the original Z, it signaled a sudden resurgence in Nissan's fortunes, not to mention those of the Japanese carmakers in general. And just as before, the Z-car quickly established itself as a real sports car that real people drive in the real world.
So with the appearance of the 2009 Nissan 370Z, we were practically at the factory door, waiting for the first one. While cars today are getting bigger, heavier, duller and blander, the Nissan 370Z remains true to the whole sports car deal. It's shorter, wider, lighter and powered by a 332-horsepower 3.7-liter V6 with variable valve timing and lift. It's a serious car, not just a stylish one.
When a new Z-car appears, it means something.
Why We Got It
By the time the 2009 model year rolled around, we were ready for a new Z-car. Ajay Panchal's geometric theme for the fifth-generation Z-car's bodywork had become a little familiar, and the interior's drama continued to be undercut by all that plastic. Even the VQ-Series 3.5-liter V6 now seemed a bit breathless.
The 2009 Nissan 370Z looked good to us. The styling work done by Nissan Design America's Randy Rodriguez had the same aggressive spirit as the Nissan GT-R and yet also recalled the original 240Z. The interior had the look of luxury instead of cost-effectiveness, including leather and suede trim, the Nissan navigation system that we like so much, and even iPod integration. Then there was the magic in Nissan's trick no-need-to-heel-and-toe technology for the manual transmission, SynchroRev Match. Plus the VQ-Series engine had 3.7 liters of displacement and a rev-happy nature, so we assumed it had become smoother as well as more powerful and fuel-efficient.
So with a new engine, more power, class-leading interior refinement and a crazy technological aid to help us optimize our driving skills, we eagerly made room in the garage for a 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring with the Sport package and navigation. The MRSP came to $40,320.
We assumed that we'd embrace this high-performance dream car even in a world of stop-and-go traffic, concrete freeways and potholes. And freeway hop, don't forget that. Plus noisy rain grooves in the concrete. Did we mention freeways? Well, you know what they say about assumptions.
Durability
You know the goal of a long-term road test: 20,000 miles.
We keep tabs on our long-term cars throughout the year, making sure they are on track for 20,000 miles when it's time to tear off the 12th page of the calendar. Yet even with rigorous attention and some last-minute road-tripping, we just couldn't do it. This 2009 Nissan 370Z left our offices with 18,755 miles on the odometer, a full 1,245 miles shy of our goal.
So what went wrong? We were certainly taken with the new interior, including the door inserts, cool gear-indicator display, supportive seats and Bose stereo with great iPod integration.
Well, how about road noise? As Executive Editor Michael Jordan noted, "About 90 minutes of driving at a time proved to be as much as I could stand. It's the tire roar. It's bad enough when you're driving on asphalt, but the grooved concrete of freeways in Southern California really makes this car a penalty box on any kind of real trip. And it's not the tires themselves; it's the lack of acoustic refinement from the car. It makes the 2009 Nissan 370Z seem like a cross between a dump truck and a National Guard Humvee. As near as I can remember it, the 350Z was a whisper-quiet limousine in comparison."
And another editor said, "This is a sports car, so why doesn't it sound like one? And it's all well and good that the interior is nicer than a G37's, but why does it have more road noise than an '87 Pathfinder?!" Added Vehicle Testing Manager Mike Schmidt, "I don't remember the tire noise from our Nissan 370Z being so loud the last time I drove it. It's obnoxious. My ears were bleeding before I could crank the radio loud enough to drown out the tire drone."
And then again from that first guy, "And I like the Z-car. Seating position, ride quality, good navigation, satellite radio. And there'd be a good trip across the Coast Range at Coalinga and then a drive in the Santa Cruz mountains on Skyline and then down Page Mill when I get there, which is the whole reason for taking the Z-car in the first place. Then I thought about the sound of those tires filling the cabin on the trip up Interstate 5. Like being 50 feet from a cement truck for five hours. So I decided not to go at all."
Think we're just being whiny? We're not. The tire noise, apparently, comes from less-than-ideal cabin-air extractors, and a fix for the problem is in the pipeline. Future 370Z owners, you're welcome.
But even when that's fixed, there is still the issue of engine noise: "The 3.7-liter V6 makes big power, but it sounds like a Frontier on steroids." And then there was this: "Good grief this car is noisy. I know we keep going on about it, but there's really not much else to dislike about this car — but it's damn near a deal-breaker. The solution? Loud music. Really, really loud music."
Of course, there were some holdouts who talked a great game about the Z-car's freeway persona, but when push came to shove, they ultimately passed on road-tripping the Z with any frequency. Still, they put in their comments: "Do you not remember the noisiness that was the 240Z, the original RX-7 or the Porsche 944 S2 Turbo? Of course you don't.... But let's not put the Nissan engineers and product planners on high alert to dumb down the 2009 Nissan 370Z. Some of us like it just the way it is." Another said, "This is a fantastic car. Don't let others convince you it's too loud and too rough. This is a sports car, a man's sports car, and after driving it those 500 miles this week I'm convinced that the 370Z is just right how it is. If the NVH levels aren't to your liking, dig around in your purse and pull out some ear plugs, but don't ask Nissan to neuter one of the final remaining sports cars that is actually tuned for the male of the species."
No matter which side of the acoustic question our editors took, it's fair to say that we were all surprised that the 370Z spent 13 days out of service, nine of them devoted to replacing a broken transmission (including the clutch) after it got stuck in gear.
Moreover, editors Dan Edmunds and Mike Magrath also replaced the front brake rotors and pads. And the car spent a few days out of the rotation having the bumper repaired from a failed parking attempt. Oh, and a couple of times the key failed to work. And the kick panel fell off and was replaced under warranty. And also the aftermarket oil cooler, highly recommended for aggressive driving, started to leak and required replacement.
Total Body Repair Costs: $994.69
Total Routine Maintenance Costs (over [12] months): $489.93
Additional Maintenance Costs: None
Warranty Repairs: 3
Non-Warranty Repairs: 0
Scheduled Dealer Visits: 2
Unscheduled Dealer Visits: 3
Days Out of Service: 13
Breakdowns Stranding Driver: 1
Performance and Fuel Economy
At the end of the day, the 2009 Nissan 370Z is a sports car and as much as we were bothered by the noises, some people will be able to wave them off with a simple, "It's a sports car!" End of discussion.
Fuel economy was acceptable from this type of car that was doomed to spend most of its life being flogged daily in L.A. traffic, producing an average of 18.7 mpg with a best of 24.4 mpg. These results, however, are notably lower than the 21 mpg combined and 26 mpg highway rating that the EPA guidelines suggest — apparently your mileage may vary with driving style and circumstance. As it turns out, our one effort of 24.4 mpg was isolated, and no other in the range of 24 mpg was ever recorded. Meanwhile, our tank of 13.2 mpg was joined by many other similar results. It's a reminder that you make power with gasoline. For lots of power, add lots of gasoline. What do you expect? It's a sports car!
When it came to test this Z-car at the end of its time with us, brake performance proved to be an issue. During its initial test when it joined the fleet, the 370Z came to a stop from 60 mph in a scant 105 feet, a result that was easily repeatable. At the end of its year with us, the Z-car was hard-pressed to record a 110-foot stop — mostly a matter of worn tires. But more important, we experienced a couple of stops in which the braking distance inexplicably lengthened to first 130 feet and then 140 feet. And then afterward, the stopping distance was in the normal range around 110 feet. Our test driver said, "As with a previous 370Z test, I experienced some sort of loss in braking (hydraulic pressure? boost? ABS?) from plus/minus 40 mph to a stop. It felt as if only 70 percent of the normal braking [effect] was [available]. Spooky!"
On the other hand, acceleration is just 0.2 second slower than before, as it turned a 5.4-second run to 60 mph from a standstill (5.2 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip). The quarter-mile performance also proved just the same, as it did 13.7 seconds at 103.1 mph. Our driver did notice, however, that an increased amount of driving effort was required to get these numbers.
The Z-car went through our handling performance in much the same way, achieving much the same results with a bit more driver skill required. It went through the slalom at 70.9 mph (1.1 mph slower), yet circled the skid pad at 0.97g (an improvement of 0.3g; skid pads like bald tires). And our test driver complained, "The worn rear tires have changed this car from trustworthy to twitchy at the limit."
Best Fuel Economy: 24.4 mpg
Worst Fuel Economy: 13.2 mpg
Average Fuel Economy: 18.7 mpg
Best Available Cruising Range: 417.3
Retained Value
Depreciation for the 2009 Nissan 370Z ended up on the high side, which is what you might expect for a sports car in this market, and it lost approximately 31 percent of its value at the end of our test according to the Edmunds' TMV® calculator. Compare this with some of our previous sporty toys, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo MR and the Subaru WRX STI, which lost 22 and 24 percent, respectively.
True Market Value at service end: $27,710
Depreciation: $12,610 or 31% of original paid price
Final Odometer Reading: 18,755
Summing Up
Track results and canyon blasts are great, and so is reminiscing about the sports cars we grew up with. Unfortunately, times have changed. A car can't be a single-purpose machine and expect to go unchallenged for its lack of full-service friendliness. If you can't make a car that does mundane as well as it does Mulholland, you're out of the game with most buyers. And unfortunately the 2009 Nissan 370Z falls into that camp.
As Executive Editor Michael Jordan wrote in our logbook, "As much as we all like to pound our chest about sporting automobiles and posture about purity, even a sports car has to also be a car. It has to be able to take you where the roads are good, anyway. And in times where financial resources are spread thin, we're all going to find ourselves forced into appreciating cars with multidimensional personalities. Ironically, the 370Z has been designed to be a better car, not just a better sports car. But it shows you just how crucial even the small things can be, as who would expect that an oversight in the acoustic properties of the interior would play such an important role in this car's personality?"
If we're getting soft, just imagine how squishy those who don't devote their lives to driving performance cars have become. A few tweaks away from being an all-around great car, it's no surprise that our 2009 Nissan 370Z didn't meet our goal of 20,000 miles in a year.
The manufacturer provided Edmunds this vehicle for the purposes of evaluation.

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jginnane says:
10:28 AM, 08/21/2010
I've had a 370Z (Base/Touring/7AT) for a year, 12K, ... and still love it. Planning a 1500 mile road trip in the next couple weeks.
Many people opted for the "sport" package at an extra $3K and were surprised when the OEM summer rubber was gone at 15K (and brake pads at 20K). The non-sport version is a little less hoonable ... but I'm looking forward to my Yokohama Avids wearing down so I can put on some decent UHP All-Season rubber. Tires are a big factor in road noise. You can put Dynamat around the wheel wells, if the sound bothers you so much.
IL really ought to look at this as a purely conventional, big V6 in a small frame. There are no exotic parts to the Z -- that's its beauty. If you want the sound muffled, get a G37 with 20 bucks worth of sound insulation for an extra $5K on the sticker.
I would not be surprised to learn some day that Nissan deliberately made this car "unrefined" in a few areas, like the sound insulation, to help push the premium Infiniti line. And that the Z was intended to be a halo car sitting in every Nissan showroom but seldom sold -- just to inspire Maxima styling dreams. IL isn't looking at this car in the context of (Renault-owned) Nissan's full product offerings, but trying to position it between a Miata and a Corvette. That's a very small part of the whole picture.
mannyljr says:
11:46 PM, 03/18/2010
I was shopping for a new 370Z last year, spec'd like the one they tested here. After test driving them a half dozen times and reading the 370Z forum from actual owners, the lack of engine refinement, common complaints about the noise level and the problem with oil overheating, I bought a used 2007 Cayman S instead. I'm so glad I did. The Porsche is an awesome car.
dat2 says:
07:43 PM, 03/05/2010
I agree with canadaphant, why no mention of the disaster that took place during Lightning Lap C&D? Where the hell is Nissan to step up and upgrade at least sport pack 370's with better brake pads at least?? I have a G37S 6spd and have noticed squishy feeling brakes, but have not tracked it. BUT YES I LOVE THE CLEAN WHEELS - NO BRAKE DUST!!!!!!!
truesportscar says:
07:26 PM, 03/02/2010
Once again Insideline is the only place complaining about road noise on the sports car such as 370Z, Porsche 911, Honda S2000, etc.
Follow the link below to Car and Driver comparison test and see for yourself:
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/original/application/d52148bc317406d156edfbf54195df78.pdf
According to the test Mazda RX8 more noisy IDLE, FULL THROTTLE, and 70-MPH CRUISE when compared to Nissan 370Z.
As for the quality and reliability, find me a true sports car other than Honda S2000 that is more reliable than Nissan 350 or 370Z.
Insideline editors going soft on us!
I like my sports car to look, feel and sound like a sports car (As Nissan 370Z engineers intended and delivered beautifully for under 30K).
renorally says:
01:46 PM, 02/28/2010
I'm always amazed how problems like this get past any manufacturer. Obviously, during the testing at Nisaan didn't anyone say " hey this thing is really noisy?" Same way with any other issue. It took Hummer years to get away from a cheap interior and while Corvettes interiors have improved, they still are subpar for their class. Same way with a lot of German cars...newsflash, Americans use drink holders. I guess at times they don't see the forest....
yellowmiata says:
09:33 AM, 02/27/2010
I completely agree that IL is getting soft. What happened to the men and women who care little about noise and a rough ride? Those editors that bought old pony cars in their youth and stiffened the springs, opened up the intake and replaced the exhaust? Apparently these editors grew up and got "old" ~ not in the age sense, but in the "I want to whine about noise" and "I demand a '86 Oldsmobile smooth ride."
All the young car enthusiasts who don't need leather, don't need 200lbs of sound damping, don't need 8 cup holders - pay attention b/c IL seems to be falling away from the cars that make our hearts beat and are eyes swivel.
I do appreciate reading about the Ford Flex IL, but don't forget that car enthusiasts are interested in tinkering with power and excitement, not just baby seats and cargo space. Power and excitement can come with a reasonably soft & quiet ride for $60k+ (i.e. M3), but the died in the wool enthusiasts aren't buying a 4-door. We're getting a fastback with 2 chairs wrapped around an engine. Then we're adding CBEs and CAIs - not whining about how my back hurts in a sports seat.
Bring back some of the pony-car-lovin', willing to get a speeding ticket, greasy hands, "car breaks & I'm excited to fix it" folks that aren't afraid of a bit of NVH to experience a great sports car.
bodyblue says:
05:27 AM, 02/27/2010
"Don't want to get snapped at again, trying my best to read your mind on what you were actually trying to say instead of what you said... Got me a little paranoid now...
"All" the new models are these two: Maxima and Cube.... and I wouldn't really call those mainstream. That is to say, they have been for sale since 2009 and I've seen very few.
So I think your point actually is this: moot."
Sorry you are so sensitive....let me be more clear. Your point is that 2007 models were reliable. My point is that those are not current models so what you are saying does not mean anything about current models. I was trying to be fair by saying that IL should get another Nissan to see if the quality is better than on the last two Nissans. The Dodge Caravan was not that great but the current Dodges have been super, so now do you see my point?
"The only real quality disaster here was the kick panel falling off, and the key failing to work, which I might note, has happened to my sister's 2006 Honda Civic. The Oil Cooler was aftermarket, so it leaking has nothing to do with Nissan. The transmission seems to be a pretty isolated case."
A quality disaster is when a major component of a car fails completely. Sorry if you dont think so, but if you owned it I bet you would feel otherwise. I was not talking about the oil cooler but if I was to I would ask why one would have to be installed on such a high performance machine.....such an important omission by Nissan makes me wonder about the engineers at Nissan. Remember when some ninny whined about the Ram and its tailgate camera and how the entire truck was poorly engineered because of that one small thing? Here is the example of the aniti-American bias I was talking about. An oil cooler on a high performance machine is something a well thought out car should have, no excuses. Especially since it has had reported problems of overheating. (Did they fix this on current models, I dont remember) So that its trans failed is a disaster that should not be a surprise considering the omission of a critical part in a highly stressed drivetrain.
bodyblue says:
05:13 AM, 02/27/2010
"Nobody cares how a SUVs, utility cars, trucks...."
Really? Thanks for speaking for all of us.
s197gt says:
08:15 PM, 02/26/2010
bodyblue,
"What is your point?"
Seemed pretty obvious, but I presume you were being sarcastic.... You asked about mainstream models so I provided you evidence. They are virtually unchanged since those reviews.
But then you said later:
"Are all the new ones as bad? That is my point."
Oh... ok, sorry I didn't read your mind that you were talking about only the NEW mainstream models. That is, if you ARE still talking about JUST mainstream models. You did use the world "all", which would include, ALL models... Don't want to get snapped at again, trying my best to read your mind on what you were actually trying to say instead of what you said... Got me a little paranoid now...
"All" the new models are these two: Maxima and Cube.... and I wouldn't really call those mainstream. That is to say, they have been for sale since 2009 and I've seen very few.
So I think your point actually is this: moot.
joliveira says:
05:11 PM, 02/26/2010
E46 M3 was gone, R8 was gone, GTR was gone, 370z gone.... the reason that I and almost anybody read this blog are gone.
Nobody cares how a SUVs, utility cars, trucks.... because those are the cars that everybody has, people want to know how unespected cars work in the day to day
Welcome to the fat and slow cars blog... it sucks