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    Seeking a more economical version of the G sedan, Infiniti came up with a small-cube version of the familiar VQ-Series V6 engine and dropped it in the 2011 Infiniti G25. Thus was born the 2011 Infiniti G25, the most affordable Infiniti you can buy. | March 11, 2011

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2011 Infiniti G25 Full Test

Fewer Cubes for Fewer Dollars

    44 Ratings

    Corporate parts bins are magical places. Seeking a more economical version of the G sedan, some clever Infiniti product planner sifted through mothership Nissan's home-market powertrain portfolio and unearthed a small-cube version of the familiar VQ-Series V6 engine.

    Thus was born the 2011 Infiniti G25, the most affordable Infiniti you can buy.

    The New Entry Level
    Until now, the company had only the G37 to do battle with entry-level versions of BMW's 3 Series and the Lexus IS, which in terms of cost and performance was sort of like deciding between a cigarette lighter and a flamethrower. The G25 now shoulders that duty, positioned squarely in the same output and price category as its entry-level lux-marque competition.

    Known as VQ25VHR in Nissan-speak, the G25's 2.5-liter V6 power plant is built on the same architecture as the 3.7-liter V6 found in the G37. The G25's engine is consequently only smaller in terms of swept capacity — externally, the two engines are clones.

    This commonality presents something of a problem since the "smaller" engine doesn't result in significant weight or manufacturing cost savings. Fuel economy, too, at 20/29 city/highway mpg, betters the G37's 19/27 mpg showing by just a hair while giving up a not-inconsiderable slice of power and torque.

    So in order to keep the 2011 Infiniti G25's sticker from potentially ballooning past that of a bare-bones G37, Infiniti withheld from the G25 a few whiz-bang option packages. The G37's Premium, Sport and Technology offerings are deleted for the G25, as is a navigation system. But then, this is the entry-level version, remember?

    A base G25 starts at 4,000 fewer bucks than the base G37. Our G25 tester, a Journeyman trim, is about as loaded as they come, sporting a solid pack of equipment including keyless entry, a back-up camera, Bluetooth, heated seats, dual-zone climate control and an iPod interface. A $1,000 moonroof brings its as-tested price to $34,675, or about $1,600 less than the asking price for a base G37.

    Smaller and Willing V6
    The G25 generates 218 horsepower and 187 pound-feet of torque, numbers some 110 hp and 82 lb-ft less than the G37 but right in the mix with those of its main rivals.

    As V6s go, the G25's is a smooth revver. The VQ25VHR tackles its 7,500-rpm redline with none of the coarseness that has crept into the 3.7-liter version, owing to the 2.5-liter engine's lighter reciprocating masses. Acceleration is satisfactory, if not blazing. In our testing the G25 clocked 60 mph in 8 seconds flat (7.7 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip) and then clicked off the quarter-mile in 15.8 seconds at 89.2 mph.

    The G25 doesn't sacrifice fundamental dynamic goodness in exchange for an attractive sticker.

    The spread of power is well-distributed across the tach, as the little V6 exhibits useful pop down low. It helps that the engine is mated to the cooperative — and compulsory — seven-speed autobox. It's not shy about downshifting when you dip the go pedal, and it does so with a blip of the throttle to match revs. Manual mode is commanded via the console lever only. Although the G25 is not a sports car, we wish steering wheel paddles were available if for no other reason than to facilitate engine braking in stop-and-go driving.

    And as good as the automatic transmission is, there's something about rev-happy engines like the G25's that makes us really pine for a shift-it-yourself manual gearbox. They'd be sales-proof, though, so it's hard to blame the company for offering the G25 solely with an automatic.

    Correct-Wheel Drive
    Let's delve into what the 2011 Infiniti G25 isn't. It's not a compromise, at least if you expected Nissan to sacrifice the G's fundamental dynamic goodness in exchange for an attractive sticker. The G25's hydraulic steering delivers every bit of the honest heft of its bigger brother. Same goes for the solid brake pedal feel and crisp turn-in. The G25 is an engaging drive that strikes a balance between feedback, capability and comfort.

    Through the slalom the 3,530-pound G25 produced a 65.7-mph performance that was accompanied by a bit of lift-throttle oversteer. Managing this behavior was fun but probably didn't help the end result.

    Grip on the skid pad was respectable at 0.91g, especially when you consider that the G25 is rolling on all-season 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle RS-A tires that had clearly been worked hard prior to our test. Outright braking power is quite good, consuming 109 feet from 60 mph.

    A G by Any Other Name Is Still a G
    On the road the G25 delivers lively road feel, particularly at the front end, tracking your desired path with pointy accuracy. Body motions stay roped in without the need for stiff suspension underpinnings — the G25 inspires confidence while remaining compliant and comfortable. It's not an out-and-out sport sedan but it receives the trickle-down benefits of being related to one.

    Even if there's not enough grunt to induce G37-like powerslides, at least the G25 enjoys that car's cabin. The G25 is appointed very similarly to its big bro, and while we could quibble — and probably have done so — about the plushness of a few of the material choices in the G37, those things get more of a pass in the less expensive G25. Outside, there's barely a visual tip-off that you're driving the entry-level version of the G. Only its rump badge gives it away.

    Not that there's anything to be shy about, since the G25 is a fine car and a welcome addition to the G family. Take a moment and give thanks that there are still carmakers that embrace the inherent dynamic attributes of the rear-wheel-drive layout. Still, we're curious to see how many buyers reckon that the 2011 Infiniti G25 entails enough savings to overcome the G37's siren song of power.

    The manufacturer provided Edmunds this vehicle for the purposes of evaluation.

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    gtrguy2012 says:

    03:22 PM, 06/11/2011

    It should definitely have better mileage.  And It requires premium...  hard to think why anyone would go for the G25 just to save 4 grand when in this price range is 4 grand really gonna put a dent in your wallet when you're ready to spend 35+K on a car?  Not really.

    larry9458 says:

    07:45 PM, 05/21/2011

    I got the G25X in April and I love the car. Power is adequate however engine is a little noisy when pushed to the limit. I just wish with this smaller engine it got a little better gas mileage (EPA estimate is 19 city and 27 hwy) and I'm averaging about 22 with mixed driving. I'm also disappointed that premium fuel is recommended on an engine of this size.
    I'm impressed with the steering and the way the car handles, very nimble.

    hscac says:

    03:53 AM, 04/14/2011

    I used to think G25 doesn't make sense at all as well, however, I actaully see a few G25 on the road already, given that it just went on sell for just 3 months. Personally I own a G37, and its the power that causes me to buy it. However, when I get a loaner G25 during my G37 maintainance, the G25 actaully has a BETTER driviability than the G37. I definiately do not feel the 100+hp differences at all during regular driving. It does have enough power to pass over cars on highway although just not as powerful as the G37.

    So for you guys who think it's non-sense, try one out and comment again.

    blackadder5639 says:

    11:36 AM, 04/01/2011

    The G25 is a great car, but I feel Nissan/Infinity have made the following mistakes with it:

    1. Leaving out navigation as an option. That's terrible! Who buys a luxury car without navigation these days?
    2. Highway fuel economy should be at least 30 mpg. With today's autoboxes, this should be easy. Or it should have 40 hp more.
    3. No manual?

    jscion says "This model just doesn't make any sense.  It isn't all that much more economical than the G37.  A whopping 2 MPG's for such a large decrease in horsepower and only a few thousand dollars in price???  STUPID!!!"
    I agree.

    "There will be people who don't care about power and want to save $$$ that will buy it.  There always are."
    I am one of them. But I still wouldn't buy this car.

    trav187 says:

    05:39 PM, 03/21/2011

    I'm really surprised they didn't give it a bit more power, its what Infiniti is known for.  They could've thrown in a 4 - turbo or squeezed some more juice out of a 6 to make it a real contender amongst the entry level models, I'd have to say i'd honestly prefer an IS250 over this simply because of the lackluster engine.  

    I have an 08 G35S, and its honestly an amazing car, I love everything about it.  I just can't imagine driving the same car with only a 218 hp engine under the hood and struggling to hit 60 mph in 8 sec.  The package would not be complete.  

    For a G25 (especially with the minimal price difference) to be competitive you'd need performance figures to be around 250 - 275 hp and have 0-60 times from high 6's to mid 7's.  That is SO much more appealing and acceptable for an entry level sport sedan.  I don't think this model will see much success until they correct this issue.  Its a great idea, but they really missed the mark by aiming way to low with the powertrain, and i won't even mention the ridiculously small gap in fuel efficiency savings over a G35 or 37.  

    I hope they correct this soon or it'll hurt Infinitis reputation of producing rocket sleepers.

    dizzi says:

    06:45 AM, 03/18/2011

      Typical!  IL missed it here!!!  A REALLY great chance to lean into a FOREIGN car company, on what a lame duck they produced.  A marshmallow made to fool the masses and IL staff.  What are you scared of???  This car is OKAY by AMERICAN standards, so why do you give it foreign car PRAISE with... "Smaller and Willing V6" ... "Acceleration is satisfactory, if not blazing"...

    BUT HERE IS THE BEST....

    "...and while we could quibble - and probably have done so (no never) - about the plushness of a few of the material choices in the G37, those things get more of a pass in the less expensive G25."

       ... WELL WHERE IS IT!  WHERE IS THE QUIBBLE??? Cue crickets chirping.   As with the G37, here is even MORE a reason NOT to give a pass!  See Chrysler 300 Base model article... NO PASS!!!  Here, A FANTASTIC article on a MONASTIC, overpriced sedan, just because of the emblem on the grille. gimme a break!
      
       That is just it, here you have a perfect oppotunity to RIP them a new one on an OVERPRICED, UNDERPOWERED rip-off of a car and it so graciously ... "GETS A PASS"
      IL is too easy, It's frustrating but actually VERY easy to observe your bias.... just look at the responces...obviously no one from this page actually reads what thier reades think...  IL just scan these comments and you see NO ONE like this car as much as you do.

    JMO ... i could be wrong?

    taxman10 says:

    07:56 PM, 03/16/2011

    Tested it and decided on a Volvo S60 T5 with the Dynamic package..while Infiniti really promotes the G cars with heavy incentives and you can easily negotiate a big discount under invoice we thought the Volvo offered the all around better package and better engine - just not enough torque in the G25. And we got a deal a little under invoice on a 2012 , just released model  - not bad

    ne1butu2 says:

    11:17 AM, 03/16/2011

    The G is the only Infiniti sedan that I find attractive. The smaller engine won't appeal to most gear-heads, but I do believe that it will attract a younger, mostly female audience who want a stylish car and care nothing about 0-60 times. This is a smart move for Infiniti.

    panerai250 says:

    05:18 AM, 03/15/2011

    No thanks,I would rather buy a two year old G37 with low miles. When Im ready thats what i will probably do.

    church123 says:

    11:01 PM, 03/14/2011

    I think Infiniti definitely needs a model like the G25.  There will be people who don't care about power and want to save $$$ that will buy it.  There always are.

    I also think that Infiniti will see G37 sales decrease slightly, but overall G sales should increase and that's probably a good thing for the brand.

    All that said, it needs more power.  A VQ30, as someone else mentioned, making perhaps 230-240 hp would be perfect.  Infiniti has built a good part of its brand rep on having performance at or near the top of its class in every market segment it competes in.  The G25 clearly does not have that level of performance which could hurt the brand.  Hell, even a basic version of the VQ35 found in the various minivans, altimas, etc. making 260-270 hp would be just fine.  60-70 hp less than the VQ37 is a big difference.  The only problem with that is fuel economy probably wouldn't be any better, and Infiniti might have to consider playing the BMW name game - can't have a G35 and G37, so they'd have to call it a G32 or something (ala the 3.0 liter 328i).

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    Speed Read

    Vehicle Tested:

    2011 Infiniti G25

    Base Price:

    $33,675

    Price as Tested:

    $34,675

    Engine:

    2.5-liter V6

    Gearbox:

    Seven-speed automatic

    Power:

    218 hp @ 6,400 rpm

    0-60 mph:

    8.0 seconds

    Fuel Mileage:

    19.6 mpg

    What Works (pros):

    Downsized V6 is more eager than its numbers suggest, and the ride/handling trade-off has been skillfully managed.

    What Needs Work (cons):

    No manual gearbox is offered.

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    Specs & Performance

    Vehicle
    Year Make Model2011 Infiniti G Sedan G25 Journey 4dr Sedan (2.5 6cyl 7A)
    Vehicle TypeRWD 4dr 5-passenger Sedan
    Base MSRP$33,675
    Options on test vehicleMoonroof ($1,000)
    As-tested MSRP$34,675
    Assembly locationTochigi, Japan
    Drivetrain
    ConfigurationLongitudinal, front-engine, rear-wheel drive
    Engine typeNaturally aspirated port-injected V6, gasoline
    Displacement (cc/cu-in)2,496cc (152 cu-in)
    Block/head materialAluminum/aluminum
    ValvetrainDOHC, four valves per cylinder, variable intake + exhaust-valve timing
    Compression ratio (x:1)10.3
    Redline, indicated (rpm)7,500
    Horsepower (hp @ rpm)218 @ 6,400
    Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)187 @ 4,800
    Fuel typePremium unleaded (recommended)
    Transmission typeSeven-speed automatic with console shifter
    Transmission ratios (x:1)I=4.783, II=3.102, III=1.984, IV=1.371, V=1.000, VI=0.870, VII=0.775
    Final-drive ratio (x:1)3.357
    Chassis
    Suspension, frontIndependent double-wishbones, coil springs, stabilizer bar
    Suspension, rearIndependent multilink, coil springs, stabilizer bar
    Steering typeHydraulic-assist, speed-proportional, rack-and-pinion power steering
    Steering ratio (x:1)16.4
    Turning circle (ft.)35.4
    Tire make and modelGoodyear Eagle RS-A
    Tire typeAll-season front and rear
    Tire sizeP225/55R17 95V
    Wheel size17-by-7.5 inches front and rear
    Wheel materialAluminum alloy
    Brakes, front12.6-by-1.1-inch one-piece ventilated cast-iron discs
    Brakes, rear12.1-by-0.6-inch one-piece ventilated cast-iron discs
    Track Test Results
    Acceleration, 0-30 mph (sec.)3.0
    0-45 mph (sec.)5.1
    0-60 mph (sec.)8.0
    0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.)7.7
    0-75 mph (sec.)11.4
    1/4-mile (sec. @ mph)15.8 @ 89.2
    0-30 mph, trac ON (sec.)3.2
    0-45 mph, trac ON (sec.)5.4
    0-60 mph, trac ON (sec.)8.3
    0-60, trac ON with 1 foot of rollout (sec.)7.9
    0-75 mph, trac ON (sec.)11.8
    1/4-mile, trac ON (sec. @ mph)16.0 @ 88.7
    Braking, 30-0 mph (ft.)28
    60-0 mph (ft.)109
    Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph)65.7
    Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph) ESC ON64.8
    Skid pad, 200-ft. diameter (lateral g)0.91
    Skid pad, 200-ft. diameter (lateral g) ESC ON0.90
    Sound level @ idle (dB)47.1
    @ Full throttle (dB)73.8
    @ 70 mph cruise (dB)64.1
    Engine speed @ 70 mph (rpm)2,200
    Test Driver Ratings & Comments
    Acceleration commentsA bit of a disappointment especially when compared to the G37. Of course, the G25 is giving up about 100 hp. Not even a chirp from the rear tires if you don't power-brake. With ESC off and with power-braking, the G25 spins and then bogs, as the little V6 doesn't have the power to maintain the wheelspin; a clutch pedal would help. Manual shifting via the console lever (pull back for downshifts); nice blips on downshifts, will hold gears at redline.
    Braking commentsPedal felt completely dead and took 116 feet for first stop. But after the tires and brakes had some heat in them, the G25 performed admirably. Pedal became firm with a short travel, and you could feel the tires searching for any available grip. Very solid and secure, with minimal front end dive.
    Handling commentsSkid pad: The G25's tight steering, excellent front grip and acceptance of throttle adjustment help it stay on the arc with plenty of speed. Minimal ESC intrusion when switched on, hence the identical times. Slalom: Steering effort feels artificially heavy. The G25 has a penchant for drop-throttle oversteer, making it a handful through the slalom (slightly worn tires didn't help). Front grip is good and gives a nice feel for what that end of the car is up to -- it's the squirrelly rear that keeps it from being quicker. ESC barely intervenes when turned on, unless you get really sloppy.
    Testing Conditions
    Test date1/19/2011
    Test locationCalifornia Speedway
    Elevation (ft.)1,121
    Temperature (°F)69.6
    Relative humidity (%)38.0
    Barometric pressure (in. Hg)28.80
    Wind (mph, direction)2.7 headwind
    Odometer (mi.)7069
    Fuel used for test91-octane gasoline
    As-tested tire pressures, f/r (psi)33/33
    Fuel Consumption
    EPA fuel economy (mpg)20 city/29 highway/23 combined
    Edmunds observed (mpg)19.6
    Fuel tank capacity (U.S. gal.)20.0
    Driving range (mi.)580
    Audio and Advanced Technology
    iPod/digital media compatibilityStandard iPod via USB jack; auxiliary input
    Satellite radioStandard XM
    Bluetooth phone connectivityStandard
    Navigation systemNot available
    Smart entry/StartStandard ignition, doors
    Blind-spot detectionNot available
    Adaptive cruise controlNot available
    Lane-departure monitoringNot available
    Collision warning/avoidanceNot available
    Night VisionNot available
    Driver coaching displayNot available
    Dimensions & Capacities
    Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.)3,552
    Curb weight, as tested (lbs.)3,530
    Weight distribution, as tested, f/r (%)53.7/46.3
    Length (in.)187.9
    Width (in.)69.8
    Height (in.)57.2
    Wheelbase (in.)112.2
    Track, front (in.)59.8
    Track, rear (in.)60.2
    Legroom, front (in.)43.9
    Legroom, rear (in.)34.7
    Headroom, front (in.)40.5
    Headroom, rear (in.)37.7
    Shoulder room, front (in.)55.6
    Shoulder room, rear (in.)55.2
    Seating capacity5
    Step-in height, measured (in.)15.5 F, 15.8 R
    Cargo loading height, measured (in.)28.8
    GVWR (lbs.)4,674
    Tow capacity, mfr. claim (lbs.)Not published
    Warranty
    Bumper-to-bumper4 years/60,000 miles
    Powertrain6 years/70,000 miles
    Corrosion7 years/Unlimited miles
    Roadside assistance4 years/60,000 miles
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