From 1902 until the mid-'80s, International Harvester (IH) was one of the great names in farm machinery. Incidentally, the company also built some pickups and SUVs. After all, why not give farmers the chance to pick up a new truck while shopping for a combine? And IH's trucks and SUVs famously drove about as well as a combine, too. But what they lacked in sophistication, they made up for in sheer toughness. So, of course, there's an IH Scout in Fast Five.
"The idea was that the Brazilian military should be driving in something that looks tough," explains Fast Five's Picture Car Coordinator Dennis McCarthy, "but not necessarily something you'd see every day in the U.S. So I came up with the idea of building some first-generation Scouts. When was the last time anyone had even seen one?"
There was, however, one hitch in that plan. "The production designer absolutely hated the Scouts," reports McCarthy. "We had already built five and were getting ready to build seven more, but he didn't want them anywhere near the film. So they were relegated to background duty. Blink and you'll miss them."
So what replaced the Scouts? Some VW Touaregs. Ugh. Maybe they will stop at Starbucks and then drop the kids off at school before the action begins.
Tippy
IH introduced the Scout in 1961, intending it to be a direct competitor to the Jeep CJ. Riding on a 100-inch wheelbase, the Scout is by no means a small vehicle. It's a substantial hunk of folded metal with solid axles riding on leaf springs at either end. The available four-wheel-drive system was rudimentary by today's standards, with locking hubs in front and a two-speed transfer case. The only available engine that first year was a 2.5-liter OHV four generously rated at 93.4 horsepower. Even by 1961 standards it was primitive.
The doors close with the sound of a coffee can full of screws being dropped off the roof of a mobile home.
The Fast Five Scout on hand for Inside Line's cram session was a 1968 model. Since it was anticipated that the Scout would be subject to intense action during filming, the first order of business for McCarthy's crew was reinforcing it with a steel roll cage that runs throughout the vehicle. After that, the inadequate standard powertrain was pulled in favor of a 5.7-liter GM small-block V8 crate engine rated at 300 horsepower and backed by a Turbo 400 three-speed automatic transmission. Forget four-wheel drive: Only the rear wheels are driven through a Ford 9-inch rear end.
Lookswise, the big changes are a fabricated front bumper and grille guard and a particularly gnarly-looking winch. That post rising up behind the driver is there to mount a machine gun. That gun would have made our afternoon.
Guts
If the Scout were any more primitive, it would be horse-drawn. The huge steering wheel is necessary to get some leverage on the manual steering; the exhaust sounds like the 101st Airborne invading the island of Grenada; and the doors close with the sound of a coffee can full of screws being dropped off the roof of a mobile home. But the OMP seats are comfortable and the brakes seem to work well.
Riding tall on 33-inch General Grabber tires and 17-inch Summit Racing wheels, the Scout's center of gravity is inside the International Space Station. About the only comfort available is that the brakes have been updated to four-wheel discs, with a second set of calipers in back controlled by their own master cylinder and hand brake. This thing was expected to hang its tail out frequently.
By conventional standards, this Scout is awful in every way. But it roars as if dipped in a manly effluvium. It has the road presence of a dozen quarter-ton bombs dropped along the center stripe. And it always feels as if it's about to turn turtle. Or tortoise. Or both. In sum, it's terrifying.
Everyone here wants one.
NBC Universal loaned Edmunds.com this vehicle for evaluation.
Add A Comment »
oldschool4x4 says:
08:54 AM, 11/02/2011
Its funny how people always want to be down on a Scout Im 17 and I own a 62 Scout 80. The whole reason I bought it was because it simple. Yet unique and something no one else has. Every one has a cj or a wrangler or Bronco.. or of course a pick up. Every one I talk to is like scouts are bad and scouts are a pain to own and Scouts are this or that. Then I ask the question " what would you expect from a a car thats 49 years old.
People dont understand and even modern car guys don't understand that old cars were loud, rough, and simple. To this day a stock Scout is better than some modified trucks and jeeps. Not to brag but my stock scout has out wheeled many jeeps that were modified.
Scouts are great and alot of fun. Its true too that with a standard socket set you can fix almost anything on them.
The guys who test drove this thing obviously dont know how to write a review about a car from the 60's .
And the guys who pull out the original engines ? really ? Learn how to wheel with what you got those old four cylinders go anywhere.
yuppie_crusher says:
09:49 PM, 07/27/2011
"If the Scout were any more primitive, it would be horse-drawn." Uhhhhhhh... That was the whole idea behind the Scout. When introduced in 1961, you could buy one for about the same price as a compact Valiant, Falcon or Corvair - meant to be a second car for sportsmen, or a Jeep competitor with a larger cargo compartment for farmers and ranchers. Meant to haul hay or camping gear into the hills, not haul around a race track. An interior you can hose out after you get it all muddy, the only plastic is in the turn signal lenses. You can repair it yourself with a selection of hammers and a welder. A 5-liter V-8 after '67 that would climb like a Hummer, flat-tow cars 2000 miles non-stop, or haul 3000 lbs. of ice in the bed without breaking a sweat. Made for real men, not latte sippin', quiche eatin' Toureg drivers.
Built like russian tank, comrade (ride like one, too)... I can't wait to finish updating my '70 Scout, get back on the roads and trails, and "crush" some import iron.
excusei says:
09:02 PM, 04/27/2011
"So what replaced the Scouts? Some VW Touaregs. "
You know, obviously. Can't advertise for old, reliable trucks can you? Yuck.
I remember the first F&F film, not fondly, and still wonder why they made 4 more.
bankerdanny says:
08:10 AM, 04/26/2011
I like the Scout, but if I were buying a vintage 4x4 it would be a 75-77 Bronco. I had a '71, 302 (they didn't deal in litres in those days) with a 3-on-the-tree that I converted to Hurst floor shift. After '75 you could get factory power steering and brakes, both of which you really need if you are going to run off-road ready tires.
chuckd94 says:
08:01 AM, 04/26/2011
"Yeah, right and how much do you have to build up a jeep for it to be reliable on the trail? An FJ cruiser/Tacoma/Hilux will roll all over a jeep built up or in stock form. Jeeps are nice but come on, give me a break."
You are right when you say that the Tacoma/Hilux will roll over when compared to a Jeep, but not likely in the way you envision. The FJ Cruiser, and the older FJ-40s are decent trail rigs that can hold their own against a stock Jeep, but to throw the Toyota pickups into this discussion truly shows your ignorance.
cz_75 says:
10:41 PM, 04/25/2011
Meterosexuals have taken over everything. Probably used the Scouts to tow the VWs after they broke down or got stuck. Also should mention that by '68 IH was offering straight sixes and V-8s too.