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CAFE Plan Draws Praise, Criticism at Final Hearing

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CAFE Plan Draws Praise, Criticism at Final Hearing

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    Just the Facts:
    • The 2017-'25 Corporate Average Fuel Economy plan would double average fuel efficiency for passenger cars and light trucks.
    • Most of the nearly 100 speakers at the final hearing in San Francisco strongly backed the plan, but a few voiced cautionary words.
    • Regulators hope to finalize rules for implementing the first phase by mid-year.

    SAN FRANCISCO — A steady stream of supporters who urged no weakening of proposed new national fuel economy standards helped federal regulators wrap up a trio of public hearings on the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) and greenhouse gas regulation plan. The nine-hour hearing was held Tuesday in one of the nation's most eco-friendly cities and drew nearly 100 speakers, including private citizens, automakers, and industry and environmental organizations. Edmunds.com's chief economist also testified.

    While support for the plan was the order of the day, several speakers cautioned regulators from the Environmental Protection Agency and National Highway Traffic Safety Administration against creating final rules that would reduce consumer choice, force automakers to build vehicles or favor technologies that buyers don't want or price some consumers out of the new-car market.

    The CAFE plan proposed by the Obama administration for the 2017-'25 time period is the most far-reaching ever proposed. In addition to covering a nine-year span, about twice the norm since the first CAFE program was launched in 1978, it would see average passenger vehicle fuel efficiency double to about 54.5 mpg — or about 36 mpg as measured for the EPA "window-sticker" ratings with which most car buyers are familiar.

    The proposed standard also grants special credits for use of certain fuel efficiency-improving technologies including battery-electric powertrains, hybrid systems for large pickups and more mundane mileage boosters such as improved aerodynamics and use of high-efficiency headlights and electric air-conditioning systems.

    All that would come at a price: The proposal estimates it at an average incremental hike of $2,000 per vehicle in the 2025 model year. But the plan's framers insist that if gasoline and diesel prices remain unchanged, or rise, that savings at the fuel pump would more than offset the higher initial prices for the new generation of fuel-efficient cars and light trucks.

    The argument that post-purchase savings would make up for any purchase-price blues has drawn criticism from the National Automobile Dealers Association at hearings held last week in Detroit and Philadelphia. The issue was raised again at the San Francisco session by Forrest McConnell III, a member of NADA's board of directors and president of McConnell Honda in Montgomery, Alabama.

    Using a $3,200 cost-increase estimate that NADA insists is closer to reality than the $2,000 figure cited by regulators, McConnell said that banks don't adjust loan-qualifying rules to account for future fuel cost savings. The dealers' association estimates that "7 million licensed drivers will be priced out of the new-car market" by the higher purchase price of vehicles that meet the CAFE standard.

    McConnell's figures later drew sharp criticism from environmental activist Simon Mui, a former EPA analyst and now member of the National Resources Defense Council's clean vehicles and fuels team. He said his organization's researchers couldn't find any support for a $3,200 average cost increase in any of the dozens of independent cost estimate studies the new CAFE proposal has fostered. NADA has a right to its opinions, Mui chided, "but it needs to get its facts straight."

    Edmunds.com's senior economist, Lacey Plache, also voiced concerns about the plan's impact on consumers. Her comments elicited the sharpest response of the day from EPA panelist Margo Oge, director of the agency's office of transportation and air quality. Plache said that Edmunds agrees with the motivation for the CAFE proposal, which is to significantly reduce greenhouse gas emissions from passenger vehicles and reduce reliance on imported oil.

    Plache said the company is concerned, however, that the plan could inadvertently stifle competition and limit consumer choice by requiring automakers to put most of their research and development finances into increasing fuel economy at the cost of other technological improvements. Regulators haven't given sufficient thought to "consumer demand for vehicles and how adding higher prices, decreased innovation and choice and excessively complex information could affect consumer decision-making," she said.

    Citing ongoing analysis of the shopping and buying trends established by 18 million monthly visitors to the Edmunds Web site, Plache testified that fuel efficiency typically only hits the top of new-car buyers' consideration lists when gasoline prices are climbing, and historically has fallen off as soon as prices stabilize or drop.

    Oge said that 13 of the 15 major automakers have voiced support for the plan and several times asked Plache whether she believed that Edmunds knows the market better than do the automakers. "We do have a wide array of data" while automakers typically only see how their own customer base behaves, Plache responded.

    Other speakers typically voiced wholehearted support for the plan, calling it an important step in weaning the nation from its dependence on oil, including the purchase of more than $300 billion a year in foreign-sourced oil. They praised the standards as being a critical part of any effort to reduce the impact of global warming brought about by increasing greenhouse gas emissions from carbon-based fuels.

    Several representatives of organizations concerned with national security said that the anticipated oil-use reduction from the 2017-'25 CAFE proposal would go a long way toward helping the United States increase its energy security and free up substantial funding that could be spent on internal social and security programs.

    Automakers and industry suppliers voiced strong support for retaining a provision that permits a mid-term evaluation of the rules in 2019 prior to firming up standards for the 2022-'25 period.

    Regulators said they would continue to accept written comment on the proposal until January 31. The agencies then have about six months to study the tens of thousands of comments, make any adjustments to the CAFE rules proposal and publish the final regulations for implementing the plan.

    Inside Line says: Even if you haven't yet grasped the idea that 54.5 mpg CAFE means 36 mpg in the real world, the drumbeat of support for the new plan makes it clear that big change is coming to the automobile world.

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    tbone85 says:

    08:08 PM, 01/27/2012

    @stovt001 - I'm very aware of the distribution of oil sources for the U.S., but it's done nothing to dissociate the U.S. from Middle East politics because as an international commodity oil remains ultra-sensitive to Middle East. I'm glad you are for higher taxes as you at least acknowledge the insanity of doing nothing to reduce oil demand. I haven't seen polling, but I dare say the vast majority of CAFE opponents would never agree to higher taxes.

    @compressor I suppose the TRILLIONS we've spent in the Middle East is because we care so much more about the people in that region than in Central America, Haiti, Sub-Sahara Africa and Central Asia? The political support for a high gas tax is virtually non-existent, but I respect anyone who advocates a position other than maintaining the status quo.

    Openeyes1, RME. My kids are far from obese, but there are three of them, they're fairly tall and they don't fit in any compact car for anything other than a short jaunt across town. I'm not giving up my kids, and I'm not crap-canning my large vehicle. And I am not alone. Keep trotting out your silly stereotypes if it gets you off.

    christopher42 says:

    03:21 PM, 01/26/2012

    I am completly assuming this but it seems to me that eventually when a 6 cylinder is in say a R8 the tuners will come to realize they can make money again. Why? because people don't want to drive slugs in a world where a 0-60 time in 11 seconds is considered fast. They will then have a chance to make people happy again and the world will have say 6 years of boring ecno-boxes and then it's of to V-12 Aventadors and the enthusiasts willbe happy again. We just have to respect the stupid politcians out there and eventually they will be out and we might be lucky and get some real people with lives who know what they are dealing with. That's my prediction maybe it will happen maybe it won't but before the slugs come I will make sure my S6 is ready to drive so I won't be the slug driver. What do you guys think are you going to go with the flow or have your cars be the odd ones out?

    matko says:

    09:03 PM, 01/25/2012

    Before using the term "socialist", please look up it's meaning - it's right there on the Wikipedia. The US will never be a socialist country - it might just become a little more social. And that's not a bad thing.  But those are two very different things. If you want to experience a socialist country book a vacation in North Korea, Cuba or Laos. If you want to see social-democratic countries, come to Europe. You might feel a SLIGHT difference between the two systems.
    Stop repeating after Fox-News and those Tea-Party-dumbheads, educate yourselves. People all over world are reading this and are laughing at the blatant silliness of those comments.
    Hell, we could have been through all this CAFE-discussion ten years ago, when Clinton initiated a program for electric cars. But that was shelved very willingly by the Big Three the minute W took over the office.

    openeyes1 says:

    07:17 PM, 01/25/2012

    Maybe this will get those American families that are obese to loose weight, so they can better fit in America's compact vehicles, that aren't 300lb friendly.

    compressor says:

    06:31 PM, 01/25/2012

    tbone85,
    Nobody is blackmailing anyone into spending millions on defense for the international oil industry.  We've had and always have had efficient vehicles.  Nobody wanted them.

    That said, I am not completely against the intent of the standard.  I just don't think it was done properly.  Fuel economy, especially on the highway is primarily a function of aerodynamics and drivetrain efficiency.  A longer, heavier car can easily be as efficient as a small short wheelbase car in these conditons and being short and small doesn't mean you are aerodynamics.  But what did CAFE do - they gave automakers the incentive to make bigger cars.  Why, it is cheaper to get them to meet the standards than smaller cars.

    If a gas tax or flat standard was applied, there would be a push to smaller cars, which given the same technology will be more efficient in every condition.  Plus, they will use less resources to make, require smaller tires, smaller brakes, smaller consumables all around.  All this adds up.  Nobody looks at these costs to the environment because nobody actually thinks.  They just go along with what others tell them.

    stovt001 says:

    04:42 PM, 01/25/2012

    @tbone85 - Actually Canada is our biggest oil supplier IIRC. Also, I, like many other CAFE opponents, would rather seen higher fuel taxes than CAFE. Then consumers would get to choose based on their priorities rather than having a one-size-fits-all solution imposed on them by an arbitrary supply on constraint.

    icemilkcoffee says:

    04:13 PM, 01/25/2012

    The latest crop of 40mpg hwy non-hybrid cars proves that 36mpg is eminently doable. In fact I would say it is downright unambitious. To those people who think this is fascism- get over it. We've had CAFE regulations since the 70's. In that time cars have gotten quantum leaps better. Sure- you no longer have a 4000lb behemoth with tri-carbs getting 9mpg. Instead we have Corvettes that get 20+mpg on the hwy, and blow the doors off of those behemouths of old.

    tbone85 says:

    03:24 PM, 01/25/2012

    I don't consider being blackmailed into spending trillions of dollars in defense and "aid" to the international oil trade as providing any particular amount of freedom. To continue to do nothing to reduce the amount of oil that we use nearly 40 years after the first energy crisis would be the highlight of foolishness. The vast majority of people opposed to higher fuel standards are twice as opposed to higher gasoline taxes.

    The exact same whining and moaning was heard when the first CAFE standards were introduced. Shockingly after a few decades of toil by talented engineers, instead of the death of the automobile our cars today are much better than those that existed then. When it comes to reducing our negative balance of trade, export of energy jobs, and undesirable political alliances, "Lead, follow, or get out of the way".

    mazda609 says:

    02:45 PM, 01/25/2012

    Maybe CAFE should also take a look at how harmful it is to create and dispose a battery, instead of responding like pricks to every person trying to voice an opinion.

    typer_801 says:

    02:32 PM, 01/25/2012

    Can someone clarify what the difference between 54.5 mpg CAFE and 36 real world can be so great?

    Are we talking the old EPA highway MPG calculation for CAFE and the 2008 revised EPA 60% city / 40% hwy for real world?

    If so, we're talking a fleet average of cars that get roughly 32mpg city / 42mpg hwy or something similar for traditional gas or diesel engines.

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