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    The S8 is built on the same chassis as the short-wheelbase Audi A8. | October 25, 2011

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2013 Audi S8 First Drive

A Rare Mix of Luxury, Speed and Silence

    38 Ratings

    That the 2013 Audi S8 won't hang with the world's quickest performance sedans — like the Porsche Panamera Turbo and upcoming BMW M5 — doesn't even faze the car's technical project manager, Peter Dlab.

    Dlab, sucking down a foie gras appetizer at the car's introduction in rural Spanish wine country, acknowledges that "it's not really that kind of car." And after driving the S8 through the region's isolated roads, we agree. Certainly, large sedans with track-worthy performance credentials are impressive, but the S8, which sublimely combines undeniable speed with opulent luxury, makes us question their value.

    The new 2013 Audi S8, which utilizes the same aluminum chassis and suspension as the A8, is a luxury cruise missile targeted directly at the Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG. Audi's strategy, it seems, is to ignore the world's most dynamically potent sedans and focus instead on extravagance as much as performance. What we have here, then, is a massive luxury sedan that doesn't unravel when asked to hustle, but never concerns itself with that last tenth of a second.

    Still Worthy
    Even so, Audi still rented the Circuito de Navarra in Northern Spain to demonstrate the S8's dynamic abilities. And what we learned there about the big sedan's behavior is telling. Here's one you probably could have guessed: This 512-horsepower all-wheel-drive monster understeers around low-speed corners, which are plentiful on Circuito de Navarro. Build some speed, however, and the S8's technology can be put to real use.

    In high-speed corners you'll witness unusually impressive behavior. Even the smallest lift while cornering gives the rear sport differential the message that you're ready for some rotation. It delivers by overdriving the outside wheel and effectively rotating the car enough to be unnerving at first. Repeat the endeavor, though, and you can predict when and how much to turn the car and the technique becomes as effective here as it is in the smaller S4.

    Even the 15.8-inch front brake rotors and six-piston calipers are reliable in stopping the 4,354-pound machine. Upshifts are radically fast and smooth, while the body control is excellent thanks to a 10mm-lower ride height and stiffer air springs and dampers.

    There's little else on the road that rivals this sedan's mix of speed and silence.

    Also, Audi says the S8 will hit 62 mph in 4.2 seconds, which is only about half a second slower than the Panamera Turbo and a few tenths behind the smaller Cadillac CTS-V. We weren't able to test this claim, but our backside says it's probably close to reality. So, yes, the S8 is a for-real performance sedan — even if it's not the quickest one on the planet.

    The Heart of the S8
    You may have heard about the 2013 Audi S8's groundbreaking new engine — a 4.0-liter direct-injected twin-turbocharged V8 that produces 512 hp at 5,800 rpm and 479 pound-feet of torque at 1,700 rpm. The mill's power density — at 128 hp per liter — is higher than any other car in the class. It's a strategy based around economy as much as performance, and other technologies are rolled in to help. Cylinder deactivation — which makes the V8 into a V4 during low-load cruising — is present, as is a start/stop feature that kills the engine when idling. The start/stop feature, however, won't be available on U.S. models for at least the first model year.

    On the road it's not the substantial power that makes the biggest impression, but rather the eight-speed automatic transmission, which manages to be both supremely smooth and rapid when executing full-throttle upshifts. It will click briskly through the first five gears during around-town cruising and it never made a poor selection when we slammed the throttle open to pass. Let it decide for itself when to shift and you'll experience one of the most effective automatic transmissions in the world.

    Do the shifting yourself and it's less capable. Downshifts, when requested via the wheel-mounted paddles, are rev-matched but still upset the chassis when you brake for a corner. Whether this is a result of sloppy rev-matching or a powertrain not properly isolated from the chassis is difficult to discern. Also, because of the sheer number of gears, knowing which one to target for a particular corner isn't easy. And then there's the timeless problem shared with almost every manually shifted automatic transmission: aggressive downshifts — those that require a big dig into the throttle for proper rev matching — go largely ignored. As a result, corner exit speed is compromised.

    Doesn't Matter Much
    Whether this matters to potential S8 owners is a matter of debate, but it's the kind of thing one discovers when driving the car on a racetrack. It's this level of response, apparently, where Dlab and his team chose to draw the line between luxury and performance. And it seems like a perfectly appropriate stopping point. The 2013 Audi S8 is still mightily quick even if it leaves tight corners a gear higher than we'd prefer.

    Audi Drive Select allows drivers a choice of Comfort, Auto or Dynamic modes when adjusting the chassis and powertrain. The system will configure throttle response, shift speed, steering weight, spring and damper settings (including adjusting ride height) and more. Alternatively, all Drive Select components can be adjusted individually.

    Further enhancing the luxury side of the equation are engine mounts that deliver feedback 180 degrees out of phase with the engine's resonant frequency when in four-cylinder mode. The result, in combination with active noise cancellation via the audio system, makes the S8's cockpit an utterly smooth, silent place to conduct business. Like a rocket-powered safe room on wheels, there's little else on the road that rivals this sedan's mix of speed and silence.

    Inside the Safe Room
    At hand in the S8's interior are traditional high-end materials combined with striking levels of contemporary technology. Diamond cross-stitched leather covers the 22-way-adjustable front seats, which can be optionally ventilated and fitted with a massage function. Trim for the dash, doors and console can be had in either wood or carbon fiber (the real deal). The white-on-gray instrument cluster isn't high contrast but is surprisingly easy to read.

    Audi Connect combines Google Earth 3-D graphics and voice-activated Web searches with the company's MMI navigation, which itself incorporates SiriusXM Traffic. The S8 is also a rolling WiFi hotspot.

    Lest you get the idea that this sedan is somehow lacking in luxury, here are some amenities available to rear-seat passengers: power-adjustable seats with three-stage heating, individual climate control, power blinds, headrests with adjustable side bolsters and the ability to adjust the front passenger seat.

    The Takeaway
    It's too early to comment on several of the 2013 Audi S8's more critical details. Cost, for example, won't be announced until next May before cars begin shipping to the U.S. But our best guess has this performance model starting at a lower price than the W12-equipped A8. Call it roughly $115,000.

    EPA fuel economy ratings, too, aren't yet prepared, although the car earns a 23-mpg average in the European drive cycle, which is very roughly equivalent to the EPA's "combined" rating in the U.S.

    Even the carbon-ceramic brakes, which cut 44.1 pounds total from the big Audi, are yet to get the thumbs-up for the U.S. market. That one, we're told, will come down to whether a business case can be made for the costly option.

    Perhaps the most telling detail regarding the S8's character is the fact that its press materials list the car's 155-mph governed top speed as a mere "formality." Formality or not, keeping pace with the top dogs of the autobahn — like the S63 AMG — will require more speed. We'd wager that speed is only a small electronic tweak away. And we're sure Mr. Dlab isn't losing any sleep over it.

    Edmunds attended a manufacturer-sponsored event, to which selected members of the press were invited, to facilitate this report.

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    pei_asdf says:

    12:09 PM, 11/01/2011

    The 2013 S class is gonna be great. This S8 is a wonderful car but the new S chassis and a tuned 5.5-liter bi-turbo is going to be even better.

    bestjinjo says:

    08:13 PM, 10/29/2011

    This to me is the best compromise between sportiness and luxury in this class. It would be my top pick at the moment. I don't like the new 7 series at all. It's boring and less luxurious inside imo (and much heavier aside from the 740i). But, Mercedes isn't going to go down without a fight. Can't wait to see what Lexus and Mercedes will bring to this new generation when they relaunch all new LS and S-class models.

    truecarfan says:

    05:23 AM, 10/28/2011

    mk40 - well that sounds like semantics.... well then the new electric vehicles are not "groundbreaking" either because electric propulsion was used 100 years ago in cars.  So were hybrids.  Porsche come to mind... and a good number of others in between.  Even Audi produced a hybrid concept back in 1989.  By your measure no one after Mr. Porsche in 1901 is "groundbreaking" then.

    mk40 says:

    03:43 PM, 10/27/2011

    I don't have to be the world greatest engineer to know that the word "groundbreaking" does not apply here.  That would be some new technology like the first hybrid, or the first EV or the even the first turbo V6 is a full size pickup truck.  This is not even the first turbo V8 in a large sedan... it's just smaller than previous ones.    There's nothing groundbreaking about this engine but it is a very nice engine that does what's been done before except in a smaller displacement.

    truecarfan says:

    11:09 AM, 10/27/2011

    mk40 - well I guess you must be the world's greatest engineer - because if it was so easy everyone would do it... but they aren't...
    sorry for the sarcasm... but you've really got to be kidding if you think it's easy to make all that work together in a performance engine.

    mk40 says:

    09:56 AM, 10/27/2011

    active engine mounts are nothing new and cylinder deactivation is easier with DI.   With a 90 degree (small) V8 they can even skip the balance shafts and 2.0T would need for optimal smoothness.  

    truecarfan says:

    08:12 PM, 10/26/2011

    mk40 - ummm developing an engine is not as easy as it sounds.... but what sets this engine apart is that it has the highest horsepower (and looks like torque) per liter of any of it's competition... and it has a cylinder cut off for fuel efficiency with active engine mounts that prevent you from feeling the change.  If that's not innovative then I don't know what is..

    mk40 says:

    06:59 PM, 10/26/2011

    Impressive.   Audi did a nice here.

    As for the 4.0L I agree the BD... it lot that impressive... It's like two 2.0Ts with 256hp each connected like a V... each with 1 turbo.    Any automaker can do that.    But as a whole package the car is very very nice.

    rlyon says:

    01:39 PM, 10/26/2011

    Looks so hot in white!

    urbansophistic says:

    01:06 PM, 10/26/2011

    @ ba27:


    "Panamanabananamera" --- I hollered when I read this aloud! Classic, but Porsche apparently hasn't learned the lesson of choosing such silly names for their cars. The new mini-ute that's supposed to compete against the BMW X3 and Mercedes GLK (I guess since it will be the same size) is going to be called the "Cajun." Blah ha ha ha ha ha!

    The Cajun! The may as well call it the Bourbon, because whoever came up with AND approved that name must have been drinking!

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    Vehicle Tested:

    2013 Audi S8

    Base Price:

    $115,000 (estimated)

    Engine:

    Turbocharged 4.0-liter V8

    Gearbox:

    Eight-speed automatic

    Power:

    512 @ 5,800

    EPA Rating:

    Not available

    On Sale:

    Fall 2012

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    Specs & Performance

    Vehicle
    Year Make Model2013 Audi S8 Quattro 4dr Sedan AWD (4.0L 8cyl 8A)
    Vehicle TypeAWD 4dr 5-passenger Sedan
    Estimated MSRP$115,000 (est.)
    Drivetrain
    ConfigurationLongitudinal, front-engine, all-wheel drive
    Engine typeTwin-turbocharged, direct-injected V8, gasoline with cylinder deactivation
    Displacement (cc/cu-in)3,993/244
    Block/head materialAluminum/aluminum
    ValvetrainDOHC, 4 valves per cylinder, variable intake + exhaust-valve timing
    Horsepower (hp @ rpm)512 @ 5,800
    Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)479 @ 1,700-5,000
    Fuel typePremium unleaded (required)
    Transmission typeEight-speed automatic
    Transmission ratios (x:1)I=4.714:1, II=3.143:1, III=2.106:1, IV=1.667:1, V=1.285:1,VI=1.0:1, VII=0.839:1,VIII=0.667:1
    Final-drive ratio (x:1)3.204:1
    Differential(s)Rear: Electrohydraulic torque-biasing clutch-type; Center: Torsion; Front: Open with brake-differential torque vectoring
    Chassis
    Suspension, frontMultilink, air springs, stabilizer bar
    Suspension, rearMultilink, air springs, stabilizer bar
    Steering typeSpeed-proportional, variable-ratio
    Steering ratio (x:1)15.1:1
    Turning circle (ft.)41.0
    Tire typeAll-season, optional summer
    Tire size265/40R20, optional 275/35R21
    Wheel size20-by-9 inches, optional 21-by-9.5 inches
    Wheel materialAlloy
    Brakes, frontVentilated, cross-drilled 15.8-inch steel discs with six-piston calipers
    Brakes, rearVentilated 14-inch steel discs with single-piston calipers
    Track Test Results
    0-60 mph, mfr. claim (sec.)4.2 (62 mph)
    Fuel Consumption
    Fuel economy, mfr. est. (mpg)23 (European cycle)
    Fuel tank capacity (U.S. gal.)23.8
    Dimensions & Capacities
    Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.)4,354
    Length (in.)202.2
    Width (in.)76.7
    Height (in.)57.5
    Wheelbase (in.)117.8
    Track, front (in.)64.7
    Track, rear (in.)64.4
    Legroom, front (in.)41.4
    Legroom, rear (in.)38.7
    Headroom, front (in.)37.2
    Headroom, rear (in.)38.1
    Shoulder room, front (in.)59.1
    Shoulder room, rear (in.)57.8
    Seating capacity5
    Ground clearance (in.)4.7
    Warranty
    Bumper-to-bumper4 years/50,000 miles
    Powertrain4 years/50,000 miles
    Corrosion12 years/Unlimited miles
    Roadside assistance4 years/Unlimited miles
    Free scheduled maintenance1 year/5,000 miles
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