We remember with reasonable clarity sitting in a lodge in upstate New York some 10 years ago while the then-head of Audi in America plotted out how the brand would be charging upmarket in the coming years.
His pseudo-scientific illustration was a chart that plotted Audi's potential competitors. We don't remember what the X axis was supposed to represent or, for that matter, what exactly the Y axis measured. But we remember Audi was smack in the middle of the screen, with Volvo and Saab holding down the prestige-car ghetto to the left and Mercedes-Benz and BMW in luxury-car Valhalla to the right. Care to guess which way the company was intending to go? Here's a clue: Which car companies do Audi's advertising still obsess about? Right.
A decade later, as we sit in a $100,000 black 2011 Audi A8 from the former maker of the Fox and 4000 and review its performance numbers and play with its heady mess o' electronic doodads, we must admit that Audi might finally have pulled it off.
Big Bones/Light Weight
Let's have a look at the numbers, shall we?
This Audi is the third generation of the so-called Audi Space Frame, the company's all-aluminum structure that has been the model's calling card for more than a decade. As is now customary, this version has grown larger. Larger not just than the A8 it replaces but also larger by a couple inches in length and width than the BMW 750i and 3 inches wider than a Mercedes S-Class. And the aluminum construction really pays off for Audi this time because, despite its considerable size, the A8, at 4,336 pounds, is lighter than the other Germans by a factor of one morbidly obese man.
This is fortuitous, since the A8 heads into 2011 with an updated version of the company's very familiar normally aspirated 4.2-liter V8 which, even with a power bump to 372 horsepower, lags the turbocharged and/or larger-displacement V8s of its main competitors. The A8's power-to-weight ratio is smack in between that of the short-wheelbase BMW 750i and the Mercedes-Benz S550 (sold only in long-wheelbase form in the U.S.). Predictably then, the A8's acceleration is on par with its main competitors including the 750i, S550 and Jaguar XJ.
Shhh...the A8 Is Accelerating
The A8 accumulates speed as serenely as it does quickly and it is, according to our track tester, "freakishly quiet and distant." The new model A8 brings an eight-speed ZF transmission that certainly deserves a goodly chunk of the credit for the powertrain's sprightliness and its smoothness. Shifts are as if from a dream...a good dream.
That's in the default setting, though. Dial up Sport/Dynamic modes, brake-torque the thing and this elegant luxury sedan will leap off the line and bang aggressively through the gears on its way to a 5.2-second 0-60 run (5.0 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip). In doing so it drops a full second from a 0-60-mph run done in the default mode. The quarter-mile is gone in 13.8 seconds at 102.1 mph. Had you told us that a mildly upgraded 4.2-liter V8 was going to cut it against the new crop of motors in competitive cars, we would not have believed you. We stand corrected.
As a pleasant side benefit, keeping the weight in check and maintaining a relatively small displacement results in EPA fuel economy figures of 17 city and 27 highway. Audi proudly boasts that that's better combined fuel economy than the six-cylinder BMW 740i and equal to the Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid.
Sportlich, ja!
Audi is presenting the A8, as it has before, as the D-segment entry with the sportiest demeanor. And that is true to an extent. A couple of caveats: 1) The only car we could get our hands on was a short-wheelbase model. This is fine, except that it's the long-wheelbase model that accounts for 90 percent of A8 sales. Both go on sale in November. 2) Our test car wore optional 20-inch wheels with summer performance tires, compared to the all-season rubber our most recent 750i tester utilized. There's nothing underhanded here. Audi is simply putting its best handling foot forward. Just so you know...
All of this costs money, a lot of money. Our test car rang the register at $89,625.
Those tires surely helped the A8 eclipse our test 750i's skid pad performance (0.87g vs. 0.84g). They also helped return a 60-0 braking distance of a remarkable 106 feet (to the BMW's 112 feet). Surely, those fat (265/40R20, front and rear) Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetrical tires are to credit in part for the car's crisp turn-in and overall grip. But there's more to it than rubber.
Take the braking system, which marries a moderately firm pedal action (ideal for us in this class of car) to such capable binders and such a mindful suspension system that even after six full-blast stops the A8's brakes kept returning shorter and shorter stops. It is wholly confidence-inspiring.
The Good Nanny
This is a car with exceptionally well-tuned traction and stability control systems. There is no getting around the A8's nose heaviness — it carries just over 56 percent of its weight on its front tires. And even with a rear-biased all-wheel-drive system, the front tires take a heap of abuse on the skid pad and through the slalom if you turn off the electronic nannies.
To gauge the effectiveness of these systems, we test with them both on and off. The A8 is quicker by almost a full mile-per-hour through the slalom cones with the systems left on (66.3 mph vs. 65.5 mph), which is the way we anticipate every owner would drive the car pretty much all of the time anyway.
Were it not for the new Jaguar XJ, which has mounted something of a rear-guard attack on the segment, the Audi would rightly be the most dynamic of the big boats.
Ooooh...Ahhhhh
But let's face it; electronics in the service of better handling is probably of lesser importance to most buyers in this class than electronics used to dazzle the driver and passengers.
And in this arena — one that hasn't always been the company's strong suit — the A8 scores well. Audi brings a full load of driver-assist electronics to its flagship. Thankfully, most of it is optional. You want an infrared night-vision camera to display an eerie image between the main gauges? It is now available, just as it is on the A8's competitors. Electronic lane assist and adaptive cruise control — already available on the 2010 model — are joined in 2011 by a pre-sense system that prepares the passengers and cabin for an impact when it's unavoidable.
None of these systems represent exclusive technology for Audi, but their availability is the price of entry to the highest level of luxury-cardom in the modern era. And they represent another step on the path to fully automated driving. But that is a discussion for another time.
Our in-house electronics maven, Doug Newcomb, has already crawled around the A8's interior and delved into the model's third-generation MMI interface along with its optional flashy, tweeter-rising, 19-speaker Bang & Olufsen sound system. We won't recount it all here. We will say that the new touchpad that allows you to trace letters with your finger to set navigation destinations or search for phone contacts works well. It might not necessarily work any better than simply rotating a knob to select letters, but it sure impresses the hell out of passengers and that is important. The system, which recognizes Chinese characters, simplifies use for customers in that hugely important market.
All of these doodads are set into an interior as well-crafted, elegantly designed and stylishly finished as we've come to expect of Audi. The only sour note in the interior is a console-mounted shifter that looks enticingly like a yacht throttle but is very difficult to operate with any consistency. Our only remaining niggle is with the 20-inch wheel/tire package, which adds a note of impact harshness to an otherwise exemplary air-suspended ride.
So Money
All of this costs money, a lot of money. Our test car rang the register at $89,625. Gulp. And keep in mind that this is the short-wheelbase model. The more popular long-wheelbase version will be more expensive, as will the version powered by the 500-hp W12 engine due next year.
Starting at $78,925 (with destination charge), our tester had a goodly number of options. The 20-inch wheels and summer tires added $1,200. The adaptive cruise control and lane assist are part of the Drive Assistance package, which costs $3,000. The Convenience package with keyless entry, power trunk opener and rearview camera adds $2,350. Ventilated, massaging seats run $2,000. The full-LED headlamps (consisting of 76 individual LEDs!) are $1,400. And so on and on and on...
Add in the B&O stereo, which runs $6,300 and the $2,300 night vision system and a fully equipped A8 will easily top $100K.
It's not as if Audi hasn't produced cars costing $100K before, and we don't just mean the R8 sports car. The previous-generation A8, in fact, offered two $100,000-plus versions, the W12 and the V10-powered S8. The W12 version — hell, the entire A8 line — sold about as well in the U.S. as month-old tuna fish sandwiches. Meanwhile, the Mercedes-Benz S-Class and, increasingly, the BMW 7 Series remain the popular kids in the class. Each has about 30 percent of the market. Last year, Audi had less than 2 percent. So slim is its slice of this lucrative business that Audi crows about having had around 6 percent market share in the recent past.
And that gets at the crux of the matter. Audi has fielded fine competitors in the past and never cracked the market. Part of this is a lag between perception and reality. In objective terms, the Audi A8 is fully competitive with the vaunted Germans, but there are still only a few folks who, with a $100,000 bill in their pocket, decide to stop in the Audi store.
We think producing an A8 with rear-end styling indistinguishable from the company's entry-level sedan, the A4, is not particularly helpful to Audi's cause. Otherwise, the car is there.
But that upmarket charge the company is counting on? That needs to play out for a little while longer.
The manufacturer provided Edmunds this vehicle for the purposes of evaluation.

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carfreak13 says:
06:52 PM, 03/16/2011
my preference order:
1. A8-xj(can't decide)
2. LS460
3. alpina b7
4 s63 amg
krazy_croat says:
09:07 PM, 03/10/2011
Pictures of this car do not do it justice. Especially the interior, which is coronary inducing. I sat in a LS460, S550, Equus, and 750iL. All very well crafted interiors, but the Audi still seemed a step above.
awc1 says:
12:21 PM, 12/19/2010
Now that VW has folded Porsche into it's automotive group, you got to wonder when will Audi replace the A8's 4.2 liter 90 degree DOHC direct injection V8 engine with Porsche's new 4.8 liter DOHC direct injection V8 found in the Panamera.
benny911 says:
05:11 AM, 12/09/2010
Black Dynamite I want to voice my opinion. I understand where your coming from in terms of your views of Audi. However that take on the company would of made sense about 6 years ago, but now...
Audis have one of the most beautiful lines of cars out there, they perform even better then they look, and they are much cheaper then the competitors. The new 7 series Bimmers while they are BMWs they are pretty ugly and the rest of the BMW line is considerably boring. MB while producing impressive vehicles, they are way too flashy. And Lexus, really. Not to be a snob, but if you are looking for a luxury car, you are not going to buy a 90 grand toyota. I think Audi really combines all three companies: Performance, reliability, and good looks (while not being too flash). I would take the A8 over a seven series, LS, or the S-Class
truecarfan says:
08:18 PM, 12/08/2010
blackdynomite - you keep saying Audi doesn't have prestige here... you know whats funny? Audi owners actually have a higher average income than their competitors. You can do the market research... it's a database search away. That's probably because they offer the least amount of financial incentives of any of their competitors... That's why they are more profitable.
truecarfan says:
08:12 PM, 12/08/2010
powered by k20 - it's not that the A4 has dropped off. The A5 (which is an A4 coupe) has taken sales....as well as the Q5 (which is based on the A4). There is also no Cabriolet anymore - as that is now the A5. Most of the 3 series are 328's and C-Class are the 300... just like Audi with the 2.0T. The 3 series is sedan, wagon, convertible, coupe in those #'s. The C-Class is suprisingly still strong. Funny thing is the Germans makes lower cars often sell better than the G - and IS from Infiniti and Lexus.
truecarfan says:
07:58 PM, 12/08/2010
Strange the car never sold better here. Overseas - you regularly see heads of state and the like being driven around in Audi A8's. At the Beijing Olympics in '08 - the A8 was everywhere. Worldwide the 12 cylinder version actually was the best seller amond 12 cylinder luxury cars. For some reason it's just never caught on here...
My only complaint with the car.... the exterior styling. Not because the car is ugly...it's good looking... but it's not "different" enough from it's lower siblings (just like the 7 Series). The S-Class as old as it is - is "classy"... likewise the Jaguar. The Maserati Quattroporte is sexy. This looks "techno". Again - it's not bad looking... but like the 7 Series I just don't think it "fits".
Other than that - this is a top car... interior top of line.... it's lighter than it's competitors so it handles better and has better mileage while still giving the security of AWD.
benny911 says:
03:57 PM, 12/08/2010
I am a huge fan of all of Audi's vehicles (excluding the q7) and this one is definitely a standard setter. First, it is a beautiful car. I went to a dealer ship earlier in the week to take a look at one, the interior is beautiful, there is suede on the sides, the dash is pretty. EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL. The exterior, while not being too flash like a Benz is still great looking with enough stuff to turn heads but not too much that is scares people away. The ride quality is equally good, it handles like a charm, it rides smoothly, and it is very very fast. I have driven in M5s, and S63, and this is a much different feel. It is sooooo smooth even when I took it past eighty. Apparently the W-12 version is supposed to be wicked fast, so I might be putting an order in for it.
audifan_23 says:
10:49 AM, 12/07/2010
@blackdynamite0..you are a pathetic ignorant BMW and mercedes fanboy. I would really like to know what car you drive. Where do you come up with these absurd opinions about Audi? Audi definitely has class, prestige, and is a top tier brand here in the States. What do you mean audi just doesn't have what it takes and isn't better then the competition??? Audi is leading in design and interiors. Those LED daytime running lights are beautiful and completely stunning. When you look at your rearview mirrior, and see those bright white lights, you know it is an Audi, so Audis have more road presence than Merc BMW and Lexus. If Audi wasn't leading in design, than why would Mercedes BMW lexus and a ton of other car manufacturers be copying them with their LED light designs???? please don't give that crap that bmw and mercedes aren't copying the LED's...Bmw has led halo rings now, and mercedes is deploying leds in almost every car in their lineup. So yes, Audi is a top tier brand and does sell very well in the United States. I drive an Audi Q5, and see a ton of them here, and they are sold out at practically every Audi dealer here. Audi is just starting to release the brand new 2011 Audi A8, so give it some time and look at sales figures in the future. You talk as if you know everything about Audi and can predict the future, and have driven fine exotic cars for a living. Please stop trash talking about Audi on every article about their cars on insideline. Your a pathetic fanboy..how old are you???
zoolander1 says:
04:45 AM, 12/04/2010
@blackdynamite0: I'm curious to know what you currently drive and what you have driven in the past.
People talk in these forums like they've driven all these fine cars to their limits. My question would be: How does the stats posted make any car better or worse? Do we commute daily in a track?
The fact that a car is half a second faster to another one on the 0-60 doesn't necessarily make the second one a bad car.
I currently drive a 2009 A4 2.0 Quattro (Sedan). I've owned 3 series, IS350, and Acura TSX. All were great cars.
Best ownership experience? Lexus.
Best car for the money? TSX.
Best driving driving dynamics? BMW.
Best interior/exterior, fit/finish, MPG? Audi (30mpg hwy)
Which car would I keep past its factory warranty? LEXUS, TSX
Which car I WOULDN'T keep past its factory warranty? AUDI, BMW. (My Audi has 22k miles and haven't had a single problem with it but still don't trust the brand as much as lets say Lexus).
Thank you